istock_000001358927mediumGod,” prayed Samantha, “I'm getting married in two days and it's an outdoor wedding. Please don't let it rain on my wedding day.”

If God were to respond to Samantha's request, it would be necessary for him to change a high pressure system 500 kilometres wide and 8,000 metres above the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Not only that, he must have made these adjustments eight days before she prayed.

It should also be noted that this change will have major impact on weather systems around the world. Although we all pray for sunny days, we tend to forget that thermodynamics, not theology, is the basis of modern meteorology.

A Changeless God
The question posed for this article, “Can prayer change God's mind?”, is as complex as accurately predicting the weather, given all its variables. Have you ever known a meteorologist to be wrong? If so, you'll understand how difficult it is to construct a complete picture of God. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to struggle with the questions.

For the purpose of this article I'd like us to think of the variables as our own theological convictions. There are myriad theology and philosophy books that expound on the complexities of God's omnipotence, omnipresence, omniscience, sovereignty, providence and free will.

We may not realize it, but these are all interconnected issues. When you alter your understanding of one, by necessity you must reconsider the others. For example, the early Greeks could not accept a god that could be influenced by any outside sources and therefore concluded that God is immutable—that is, he never changes. This theology carries with it God's absolute sovereignty and control.

Is it possible that early Christians adopted this Hellenistic idea and concluded that nothing can change the mind of God? Just a thought, but perhaps the immutability has more to do with God's character than God's predetermined actions (i.e. his promises, faithfulness and compassion for us).

Second Thoughts
Can prayer change the mind of God? Let's consider this question from the classic theistic approach. This view says God is omnipotent (absolute power) and sovereign (nothing happens unless God causes or permits it). This theological viewpoint insists, “No, prayer cannot change the mind of God.” Biblically, we could find a great deal of evidence to support this claim.

And yet, there are at least four examples in Scripture of people who, although they held these theological convictions, prayed for God to change his mind.

Exodus 32:9-14 informs us that in response to Moses' prayer for the people of Israel, God has second thoughts. At first he tells Moses, “They are a stiff-necked people. Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them.”

But Moses replies, “Lord, why should your anger burn against your people, whom you brought out of Egypt with great power and a mighty hand? Why should the Egyptians say, 'It was with evil intent that he brought them out, to kill them in the mountains and to wipe them off the face of the earth'? Turn from your fierce anger; relent and do not bring disaster on your people. Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: 'I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever.' ”
God relents and the threatened disaster never comes.
On the one hand, God makes up his own mind and does what he wants. On the other, he responds to human prayer

Similarly, Isaiah tells Hezekiah: “This is what the Lord says, 'Put your house in order, because you are going to die: you will not recover' ” (Isaiah 38:1). Yet after fervent prayer, Isaiah returns to Hezekiah with a new message: “This is what the Lord, the God of your father David says, 'I have heard your prayers and seen your tears; I will heal you … I will add 15 years to your life' ” (2 Kings 20:5-6).

The Apostle Paul taught that God in his sovereign plan chooses those who will, apart from any human desire or effort, pray to God for their salvation. And yet in the Epistle to the Romans he writes, “My heart's desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved” (Romans 10:1).

Even Jesus, in the Garden of Gethsemane, knowing what lay before him as God's set purpose and plan, “fell to the ground and prayed that if possible the hour might pass from him” (Mark 14:35).

The only conclusion to be drawn is that Jesus, the prophets and the apostles all believed that the eternal, immutable, sovereign God responds to prayer. In bringing together the theological and the practical we are left with contradictory assertions. On the one hand, God makes up his own mind and does what he wants. On the other, he responds to human prayer.

Those who argue that prayer cannot change the mind of God often conclude that any reference to God changing his mind in Scripture is merely a figure of speech. The technical term for this is anthropomorphism, explaining God in terms usually applied to humans. This perspective suggests that the nature of God is so far beyond our capacity that we need to put him in human terms to grasp him. Even giving God a “mind” is making him over in our image.

A Profound Mystery
I've been over this question again and again. I am aware of my own theological filter as a Wesleyan-Arminian and try to keep that in perspective. But I also do my best to not allow preconceived theological convictions to put a stranglehold on what I read and see. Theologian Walter Brueggemann urges pastors to simply, “Preach the text [of the Bible].” In so doing, we may realize that God doesn't always fit neatly into our theological packages. We must make room for paradox and mystery.

As one who is theologically convinced that God has granted humanity free will, I find it difficult to acknowledge a life where everything is predestined. I believe that people make choices—not unavoidable, God-ordained choices, but real choices. Life happens—not predetermined life, just life. In the midst of it all we turn to God and pray, and he journeys with us through the difficulties and mess-ups.

Do our prayers change the mind of God? I don't know for sure. What I do know is that God is good and I keep praying. I am doing less talking and more listening to him these days, and I find that through this I am the one who is changing. I'm not so concerned with changing God's mind as discovering his will so that I can know what to pray.

Despite the different perspectives on prayer, there is a general acknowledgement that God calls us to pray and there is value in it. Those who hold a classic theistic view pray because it gives them the privilege of communicating with God and being part of what he does. C. S. Lewis, quoting the philosopher Blaise Pascal, writes, “God instituted prayer in order to lend his creatures the dignity of causality.” Those who hold a less deterministic view of God pray in the belief that God hears and responds in the way he so chooses.

Whatever our convictions, it is God who moves us to prayer, and through prayer we are changed.

Comment

On Friday, October 16, 2020, Mark Everingham said:

Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. The Greek....... Be careful (don't be anxious) for nothing; but in every thing by prayer (communication) and supplication (in need, a state of lack) with thanksgiving (as a part of the prayer) let your requests be made known unto God.

We see in this scripture a clear directive as how to pray ,again in 1 John 5;14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he hears us: 15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

Even armed with this understanding there are 2 other essential components that are needed for successful prayer. Romans 12;1-2 and underlining everything is, Romans 8;14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. When we look deeper into the word "Faith"...it doesn't mean what we "believe"(Although not without it) in fact the more important truth about "Faith" "is Gods persuasion of us"...To make a cake takes a recipe in which we find ingredients, the same should be said of "Prayer" it is not made up of 1 ingredient,but starting with us being on the alter approaching God, and finishing with knowing Gods will...also He will answer the things we pray, because we are praying according to His will, with what His spirit is leading us to pray and do. We should not assume that every individual scripture gives us the full meaning, Not all scripture stands on its own, and it's not what scripture says on it's own, but how the Holy Spirit moves us in that scripture, timing is everything . Thank God for "Prayer" ...our communication to Himself,"Sweet hour of prayer". Prayer for me is, me asking ,and then me listening.

 

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013, Christine said:

Thank you lord that you are a mystery that your Holy Spirit leads us on from one degree of glory to another
Lord help me please in my pride that I may listen and be guided by your Holy Spirit
Thank you lord that your plans are to prosper us
not to harm us
Thank you lord that even like Jesus let us be honest with you even as Jesus was in gesemena
But be open and willing to surrender our lives on a minute by minute walk to your ways even when they don't make sense
Lord thank you that in your quest to find you
You have already found us and in knowing everything about us before we were in our mothers womb is enough to encourage us to trust and be transformed into your likeness lord help me not to try and control you but to help me surrender to your will every day please help me lord to not spend wasted time in reasoning and analysing all that happens but to cast my cares in you and know that you will work all things to the good of your glory in Jesus name amen

On Saturday, July 25, 2009, Phyllis said:

I pray for revival among Your people STARTING WITH ME. Restore me Lord and wake me from my complacency so that I can spread Your great news of Salvation for ALL.

I humbly ask Lord that You soften the hearts of Your people so they will freely yield to Your will and not be a hindrance as you preside over Your church and take charge completely.

I pray Lord that as You clearly reveal Yourself, show mercy and compassion as You demonstrate Your overwhelming power and authority.

Lead us, direct us, and teach us to intercede through prayer so that we can be used to rekindle the flame that is nearly extinguished among the people that were given to You. Revive too, the hearts of those who have turned there back on You and are no longer bearing fruit, and those who are in darkness and don’t know of Your loving kindness and mercy.

Revive Your work so that this generation and generations to come will see Your mighty and awesome ways and freely call upon Your name and rejoice in You.

This I pray in Your precious Son's name, Amen.

Sister Phyllis

On Sunday, July 5, 2009, Pastor Phyllis said:

Yes Prayer can change Gods mind as well as our own lives.

Prayer is the practice of the presence of God. It is the place where pride is abandoned, hope is lifted, and supplication is made. Prayer is the place of admitting our need, of adopting humility, and claiming dependence upon God. Prayer is the needful practice of the Christian. Prayer is the exercise of faith and hope. Prayer is the privilege of touching the heart of God.The Bible speaks much of prayer. But, sometimes, too often, we ignore prayer and seek to accomplish in the strength of our own wills those things that we desire to have or happen.

Prayer changes the one praying because in prayer, you are in the presence of God as you lay before Him your complete self in confession and dependence. There is nothing to hide when in quiet supplication we are reaching into the deepest part of ourselves and admitting our needs and failures. In so doing, our hearts are quieted and pride is stripped and we enjoy the presence of God.

Let each of us be a praying people .

God bless
sister Phyllis

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